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From: "Kevin Farrar" <farrar.sails@sn*.ne*>
To: <cavers@cavers.com>, "Jason Richards" <rchrds@wc*.ne*>
Subject: Re: recreational activity vs human relationships
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 07:35:56 -0400
Jason
I will guarantee that if you pursue cave diving or any other other pursuit
and in the process exclude all else that you will burn out before you know
it.  If you don't burn out you will never fully see the beauty of the sport
without some balance in your life.  This could be a relationship or another
passtime...  collecting stamps or mastubation it really doesn't matter.
Think about it.
Kevin

With age comes some wisdom.... ask my son.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Richards <rchrds@wc*.ne*>
To: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com>
Date: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:45 PM
Subject: recreational activity vs human relationships


>>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:03:27 -0400
>>To: cavers@cavers.com
>>From: Jason Richards <rchrds@wc*.ne*>
>>Subject: recreational activity vs human relationships
>>
>>>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:01:43 -0400
>>>To: cavers@cavers.com
>>>From: Jason Richards <rchrds@wc*.ne*>
>>>Subject: recreational activity vs human relationships
>>>Cc: Christina Jett, Texas Cave Mail
>>>In-Reply-To: <b2.3c52265.2626c011@ao*.co*>
>>>
>>> >chipthorp@ju*.co* writes:
>>>
>>>>> ... I figured to become the diver that I am today I must take my dive
>>>>>training into my own hands . this includes lifestyle changes .
>>>
>>>>ScottBonis@ao*.co* replied:
>>>
>>>>Chip, you will probably never understand what I am about to say, but I
>really
>>>>feel sorry for you.  When you start thinking that a recreational
activity,
>>>>any recreational activity, is so important to your life that you're
>willing
>>>>to sacrifice intimate human relationships, then perhaps you ought to
>>>>reevaluate your priorities.
>>>
>>>and I spewed:
>>>
>>>HAhahahahah... never fear chip! (and I know this isisnt what you were
>intending, this is for scott)
>>>
>>>There are plenty of people who take their recreational activities to be
>important
>>>enough to radically alter their lifestyles or get rid of lecherous
>time-stealing
>>>hangers-on (aka significant others). I am not alone when I say that I am
>perfectly
>>>willing to live in my van for a month or two so that I can save enough
>money to go to Mexico for some multi-month expedition, I have no problem
>taking a semester off school (or lots of them, as the case may be) so that
>I can participate in some caving event... Try keeping a girlfriend when you
>refuse to spend "quality time" because you would rather spend your spare
>weekends and evenings underground amidst the stench of carbide and bat
>guano, or hanging out doing multiple hours of decompression for some dark
>water cave that they dont even want to snorkel on the surface water of...
>Take her to the movies or dinner some evening? Na- forget it.. too much
>number crunching from the last survey or for the next map, and besides, I
>gotta fix this scooter or that light tonight, and hey, what about that LED
>light that has to be built? no time for personal time.
>>>Of course the answer would be "just find a woman who is a caver, then
>they can go along!" yes, what a good answer. But it doesnt work. The number
>of female cavers is rather limited, and the number of female cave divers is
>EXTREMELY limited (Ted Cole got lucky) (watch out Dawn Kernagis) and they
>dont work out in the end.. if they are real cavers that means the're as
>hard headed as you are, and that doesnt make for a whole lot of
>relationship flexibility... hehehe...
>>>
>>>Anyway, Scott,  If you arent willing live the lifestyle your
>"recreational activity" requires, than your probably just in for the short
>haul, so just sell your gear now to the next new guy :)
>>>
>>>P.S.- Dont think that this view only applies to guys either.. I know some
>classic examples of women like this also....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>Jason Richards
>NSS-CDS 41539
>

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