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Curt, the big problem with all of these guys is that they are trying to protect each other first, and the hell with everyone else. Bad instructors, bad practices, bad gear, and they all want to hide it. I can tell you what caused every accident exactly, and that is why WKPP has none - I won't let the bullshit go on. These guys are full of shit, even my friend Laird who is still in the "let's protect the dumb fucks" mode. I hate these guys and I will drag them out and humiliate them at every opportunity. Aponso Pendejo is a third world trailer trash moron who deep air dives and promotes it, brags about it, and thinks it is some great accomplishment, and he is Mount's boy in Brazil, and he was the dead guy's instructor. The dead guy was doing what Aponso does. Rather than send condolences to the family, I'd suggest highlighting this idiot and his IANTD roots. Let's put the blame where it belongs in this so called "accident analysis" and give it some value. -----Original Message----- From: EANX@ao*.co* [mailto:EANX@ao*.co*] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 8:39 PM To: cavers@cavers.com Subject: Accident Analysis Sheck published a small book called " the Blue Print to Survival" back in the 80's. It covered a few accidents that occured with cave diving and what we could all learn from thier mistakes, such as continuos line to the surface, rule of thirds, and deep air diving. Accident analysis is a very important role for all training agencies, but the data collected needs to be accurate and done in a professional manner. Incorrect data or posting false to the whole world over the internet is non-productive. The problem I have had in the past in gathering true information from divers involved in an accident is getting the facts. George is correct when he states the information should be provided as quick as possible, but the information must be correct no matter how long it takes to gather it. Yes we all know the basics of diving, we all know deep air kills. I have decided to provide a section in ADM for Accident Analysis in upcoming issues. This section will be used as a learning tool so that hopefully we can help prevent others from making the same mistakes. Curt Bowen Publisher Advanced Diver Magazine <A HREF="http://www.advanceddivermagazine.com/">advanced diver magazine</A>
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