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From: <afonso0@at*.ne*>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:26:17 +0000 (CUT)
To: cavers@aquanaut.com
Cc:
Subject: no secrets

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Dear Jorge Pot belly,

We did not omitted the facts, the problem is 
because you're insisting and IANTD does not have 
anything with this, the victim was training under 
NSS cave diver and TDI trimix diver standards and 
his Instructor has not fault for this, He is much 
more serious than you are, He is sad with all 
this situation, for his family, etc. I went there 
just to help because at this depth nobody knows 
the cave and has experience to try help. We sent 
the 1� report to SBE (brazilian section) and to 
IUCRR, then the rep to IUCRR is on Florida right 
now and maybe didn't read the 2� report. Stop 
with your bull, you're a fat pig old and tired.
I'm not deep air diver, I don't support deep air 
dive, our team exploration use max END 130ft, you 
just say lies and yes I did the Intro course more 
than one year ago, but the Intro course have max 
depth around 100/130ft with a lot diferent 
circunstances. The victim was using the same gear 
as you recomend, selling by extreme exposure, so 
why you said bad gear ? You don't know the facts 
and say lies, grow-up little boy, it's very easy 
say by computer.
What do you want with this ? Why don't you say 
the true about your bad things inside Wakulla.
Here I never lost one single student inside a 
cave or ocean during courses, unfortunally yours 
can't say the same thing and everybody here knows 
that, wowwww was very close george, very close, 
would you like to see the report about their 
incident ? I can send you anytime pot belly.
I'm don't care for all your bulls, here We have 
serious people working to have a better courses, 
better places to dive, re-open our caves, better 
organization, things much more important than 
talk to a morom like you, you do not have this, 
your money can't buy this, this is just to people 
who deserve, you MUST deserve, everytime you say 
a bull, you and yours just loose credibility here.
If somebody wants to see the report, please send 
me a private e-mail and I'll send the 2� report, 
or wait IUCRR rep come back and post to IUCRR 
list. One more thing, let's think about this 
accident and learn with that, one guy died, 21 
years old , 3� medicine student, He knew about 
narcosis and now what your students are doing 
after the course ? Is it an Instructor failure if 
your student make something wrong after the 
course ? In this case and circunstances NO, the 
victim did everything right during his course, 
the Instructor has a lot experience, He was with 
180 logged cave dives, it's better think george 
everytime it's time to change because someday can 
be with you or yours !!!

Afonso






From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
Subject: RE: no secrets
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:34:39 -0500




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