For some reason I still think he has dived it........it would be unlike him 
to let one slip away. I will try to scan in the article later this week and 
put it on a page....it will not be linked to my site, but I will post where 
it is at and keep it out there for a week.


  At 06:46 PM 8/6/03 -0400, Michael Barnette wrote:
>Thanks for the info.  Everyone that I talked to said no one had been to the
>Virginia, not that it matters.  Artie took out Ken et al. to the New Jersey
>where they hit the debris field.  Mike and Doug had a solid dive on the New
>Jersey a year or two later.  I think as far as everyone knows, those are the
>only dives on the NJ; those two dives are recorded in the "rafters" of
>Artie's boat.
>All things considered, the New Jersey may be a better dive since it didn't
>get whacked as hard by the bombers, and you can get more time on it.  Any
>chance you can scan in the story and post it on your website?  I would love
>to read about those early dives.
>Cheers,
>Mike
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
>To: "VBTech list" <VBTech@ci*.co*>
>Cc: "Michael Barnette" <barney00@ta*.rr*.co*>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:48 PM
>Subject: Re: U.S.S. Virginia
>
>
> > At 06:43 PM 8/6/03 -0400, Capt JT wrote:
> > >Mike.....check an old Mag of DeepTech issue 15  for the facts......
> >
> > Mike.....I just pulled it out and I notice Ken has used special wording
> > when he wrote the story.....saying he was Providentially favored to be the
> > only one to dive all ten ships......which means you guys may be the first
> > to dive it and I will be the first to dive all ten.....very interesting
> > indeed.
> >
> >
> > >At 06:23 PM 8/6/03 -0400, Michael Barnette wrote:
> > >>Thanks for the info.  This will be news to a lot of people.
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> > >>To: "Michael Barnette" <barney00@ta*.rr*.co*>; "VBTech list"
> > >><VBTech@ci*.co*>
> > >>Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:36 PM
> > >>Subject: Re: U.S.S. Virginia
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Ken is the only one to have dived all 10 of the Billy Mitchell
> > >> > Fleet........it took him 10 years to do it. I need to dive only 3
>more and
> > >> > I will have done it in 5 years. I have dived several of them more
>than
> > >> > once.....no one has dived the Ostfriesland more than Rick and I....no
>brag
> > >> > just fact. I do believe that it was Roger Huffman took Ken to the
> > >>Virginia,
> > >> > but I could be wrong on that.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >   At 06:03 PM 8/6/03 -0400, Michael Barnette wrote:
> > >> > >I am simply using the depths obtained via our bottom timers as a
> > >>reference,
> > >> > >in order to avoid the differences in depth standards (boat depth
> > >>recorder,
> > >> > >FW versus SW, etc.).  What boat did Ken dive the Virginia off of?
> > >> > >Interesting.  I know he did the New Jersey, but everyone told us
>that no
> > >>one
> > >> > >had been to the Virginia yet.  We wanted to hit the New Jersey too,
>but
> > >>the
> > >> > >weather earlier in the week really did not cooperate for all the
>dives we
> > >> > >had planned.
> > >> > >Hasta,
> > >> > >Mike
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >> > >From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> > >> > >To: "Michael Barnette" <barney00@ta*.rr*.co*>; "VBTech list"
> > >> > ><VBTech@ci*.co*>
> > >> > >Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:08 PM
> > >> > >Subject: Re: U.S.S. Virginia
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Mike, it was not a troll. Call the guy, he gave his phone number
>for
> > >>the
> > >> > > > story. I have removed his email as I am sure he has no interest
>in the
> > >> > >dick
> > >> > > > waving. I heard of the incident but no name was given to me who
>it
> > >>was. As
> > >> > > > for the depths......those depths came from Ken Clayton. He will
>be
> > >>quick
> > >> > >to
> > >> > > > tell you that you have not calculated the error of your depth
>gauges
> > >>as
> > >> > > > most are calibrated for FW. You can bet your ass he has done his
>and
> > >>stuck
> > >> > > > his hand in the deepest washout of the wreck......so no one can
>say
> > >>they
> > >> > > > hit a deeper spot than him.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >    At 05:36 PM 8/6/03 -0400, Michael Barnette wrote:
> > >> > > > >Good timing (and trolling) JT.  Yes, you are correct about the
> > >>incident.
> > >> > > > >However, it had nothing to do with current, as there has been a
> > >>general
> > >> > > > >absence of current in Hatteras this year.
> > >> > > > >The incident occurred due to a freak front that moved through,
>with
> > >>the
> > >> > > > >weather quickly changing from stable 3-foot seas and 10 knot
>winds,
> > >>to
> > >> > >10-12
> > >> > > > >foot spilling seas and 20-25 knot winds.  Couple that with our
>boat
> > >> > >breaking
> > >> > > > >a throttle cable that disabled it for an extended duration while
>we
> > >>were
> > >> > >on
> > >> > > > >deco, which prompted our captain to wisely call in our friends
>on the
> > >>R/V
> > >> > > > >Cape Fear, who were just leaving the U.S.S. Monitor site.  They
>did a
> > >> > >great
> > >> > > > >job of negotiating the rough seas and picking us up; it was nice
>to
> > >>see
> > >> > >so
> > >> > > > >many familiar faces in a situation like that.
> > >> > > > >The dive itself went great, as we had zero current and
>incredibly
> > >>clear
> > >> > > > >water on the bottom.  It was phenomenal!  In spite of the damage
> > >> > >inflicted
> > >> > > > >by Mitchell to the superstructure of the Virginia, the hull
>itself is
> > >> > >pretty
> > >> > > > >damn solid.  There is one area on the starboard side near the
>stern
> > >>that
> > >> > >has
> > >> > > > >a significant amount of damage.  You could scooter right into
>the
> > >> > >interior
> > >> > > > >of the ship, and brass artifacts such as bomb-proof lights
>(ironic)
> > >>were
> > >> > > > >still attached to bulkheads.  The running gear of the Virginia
>looked
> > >>to
> > >> > > > >have been removed prior to its sinking (no rudder, struts,
>shaft, or
> > >> > >props).
> > >> > > > >Big warsaw grouper on the wreck too.
> > >> > > > >I have just added some video clips to the AUE website if you
>want to
> > >>see
> > >> > >the
> > >> > > > >wreck for yourself.
> > >> > > > >http://www.mikey.net/aue/theater.htm
> > >> > > > >The actual footage will also be available for anyone visiting
>the
> > >> > >Graveyard
> > >> > > > >of the Atlantic Museum in Hatteras; they have the start of a
>nice
> > >>display
> > >> > >on
> > >> > > > >Billy Mitchell and the sinkings of the Virginia and New Jersey.
> > >> > > > >BTW, the Virginia is deeper than 390fsw, as we hit 397fsw and we
>were
> > >> > >still
> > >> > > > >well off the bottom; the wreck sits in a huge washout, testament
>to
> > >>the
> > >> > > > >strong currents that run over the wreck.
> > >> > > > >Cheers,
> > >> > > > >Mike
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > > >From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> > >> > > > >To: "VBTech list" <VBTech@ci*.co*>
> > >> > > > >Cc: <clark@bu*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:50 PM
> > >> > > > >Subject: Re: Have you dived the battleship USS New Jersey?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > At 10:21 AM 8/6/03 -0600, you wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >Hello. I work for a newspaper in New Jersey called the
> > >>Courier-Post.
> > >> > > > >We're
> > >> > > > > > >writing a story about the original battleship USS New Jersey
>that
> > >>was
> > >> > > > >sunk 3
> > >> > > > > > >miles off of Cape Hatteras in 1923. I was trying to find
>someone
> > >>who
> > >> > >has
> > >> > > > > > >dived
> > >> > > > > > >down to that ship.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >Have you done that? Or do you know of someone who has?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi Clark
> > >> > > > > > I have not dived the wreck New Jersey yet, it rest in 335fsw
>very
> > >> > >close to
> > >> > > > > > the Virginia which rest in 390fsw. I have added several NG
>list to
> > >> > >this
> > >> > > > > > email as I know of several divers who have dived those wrecks
>and
> > >>are
> > >> > > > > > members of those list and I'm sure they will contact you
> > >>privately. I
> > >> > >do
> > >> > > > > > know that these wrecks lay in high current water and that
>just
> > >> > >recently
> > >> > > > > > I've been told a group tried to dive one of those wrecks and
>had
> > >>to be
> > >> > > > > > rescued by another boat other than the one they were diving
>from,
> > >> > >those
> > >> > > > > > wrecks are best dived in the spring and fall when the current
>is
> > >>not
> > >> > >as
> > >> > > > > > strong I been told by the local Captains.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hope this helps with your story
> > >> > > > > > Capt JT
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >It's very deep - 300 feet or so - which I know is much
>deeper
> > >>than
> > >> > >the
> > >> > > > > > >average
> > >> > > > > > >diver would go.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >Clark Perks
> > >> > > > > > >The Courier-Post
> > >> > > > > > >856-486-2956 (work)
> > >> > > > > > >856-983-1884 (home)
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have
>to
> > >>get
> > >> > >in
> > >> > > > >the
> > >> > > > > > water"
> > >> > > > > > Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
> > >> > > > > >   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> > >> > > > > > Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >
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