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Raimo,
The quotes come from a couple of your posts:-
<< Not knowing what a shot line is, my guess is that it would replace
what would have beet he anchor line. Now the boat can roam free to pick
up the divers that surface. Okay fine. >>
That's correct. The skipper will put a shot line - a heavy weight, a
length of rope and a substantial buoy with a dive ('A') flag on it -
into a wreck then move away from the site. Once the divers are kitted up
(s)he will then come back to the buoy a number of times dropping divers
in in pairs. The boat runs free all of the time.
What happens next depends on the state of the sea or what the plan
says:- divers may descend the shot line and attach a distance line
(usually from a 50 or 100m reel) so, at the end of the dive, everyone
comes back to the shot and ascends. At the surface they move away from
the buoy and the boat will pick them up. Personally I find this method a
PITA as the distance lines tend to end up looking like knitting all over
the wreck and it's difficult not to get tangled. Of course, some
wrecks are small enough not to need the knitting.
Alternatively divers will also be 'free' and, at the end of a dive,
(usually with a pre-arranged fixed bottom time) they will deploy a
delayed SMB (DSMB) - a long sausage attached to a line. Again method of
deployment will vary - some have a shortish length of line on it and
deploy it from their first deco or safety stop, others (obviously
dependent on depth) will deploy from or near the bottom and reel in as
they ascend (many use 2-reels - one from each of the buddy pair - in
case one should jam). The divers drift, the boat follows the buoys (as
would happen on any drift dive) and picks them up on the surface.
I agree with what Neal Harman says - I would expect the whole group to
do one or the other otherwise there could be all sorts of problems.
<< You see, you do not state all the facts and logisitics in your posts.
This is where there is miscommunication. I hope this is not how you plan
dives. Your way for you works fine. Ours for us. Different conditions,
different protocols. >>
<< But if you are too cheap or not skilled enough to carry the
right gear for the dive, dont post inadequate information on this
forum.>>
That's one of the basic problems on this forum - ego. In one breath you
say there is a misunderstanding because of different conditions - fine,
I can see that has happened; in the next you have to have to take cheap
shots about the first poster's dive planning and my 'lack of skill' or
'cheapness'. The original misunderstanding was from you - you came back
with a flame after JMS', quite reasonable, post about how diving is done
in the UK (I believe you said his description of a practice used by
thousands of British divers would only work in his bedroom; the English
channel = some bedroom!); how can you extrapolate any information about
his dive planning from his post? I'm equally puzzled about how you can
ascertain how skilled I am or how my equipment configuration suits my
diving from my post (not that either have any relevance in the context
of the current discussion). The fact that someone doesn't agree with what
you say doesn't mean you have to attack them. Put the ego away and let's
carry on learning from each other <s>.
<< No flames. At least not now >>
No, no flames just personal comment. If that's what you get off on fine,
it doesn't do anything for me neither does it add to the conversation.
OTOH I believe you are the first person I have read on here that has
stated that there *are* different ways of doing things and that one
method may not suit all environments - definitely a step in the right
direction.
Kevin
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