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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 06:54:34 -0400
From: Wrolf Courtney <wrolf@co*.ne*>
To: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
CC: "David Shimell (shimell)" <shimell@se*.co*>
Subject: Re: Buddy Lines (was Pensacola Fl death)
I trained under CMAS/Israeli Diving Federation, at Aquasport in Eilat,
Israel.

No buddy lines there, that I recall (it has been a while).  We might
have had one on the blackout dive - all I remember was having to put
aluminum foil in the mask, and it being a hilarious charlie foxtrot, and
a significant training experience.

You do not strap yourself to the other diver.  You use a five to six
foot line, with eyes spliced in at either end.  Each diver inserts a
hand through one of the loops, and holds the line.  See the "Sport
Diving - The British Sub-Aqua Club Diving Manual", ISBN 0 09 163831 3. 
They say 1-3 meters.

-- 
Wrolf

Wrolf's Wreck: http://www.concentric.net/~Wrolf


David Shimell (shimell) wrote:
> 
> All
> 
> Within our club (a BSAC club) we use buddy lines if:
> 
> 1.      the vis is poor i.e. less than 2 m (~6 feet) and we are diving with
> an inexperienced diver.
> 2.      on a drift dive (where the current would make it difficult or
> impossible to return to an entangled buddy).
> 
> I have never seen "Europeans" diving with a buddy line as part of their SOP
> for all dives.
> 
> David Shimell
> Project Manager, Sequent Computer Systems Ltd., Weybridge, UK.
> Email: shimell@se*.co*
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Peter Fjelsten [SMTP:tek-dk@us*.ne*]
> Sent:   Wednesday, July 29, 1998 4:24 PM
> To:     Jim Cobb
> Cc:     Tech Diver
> Subject:        Re: Pensacola Fl death
> 
> Jim,,,
> 
> Jim Cobb wrote:
> 
> > The solution? The Europeans use a line tied between the dive buddies.
> While I recoil at
> > the thought of being strapped to "Mr. 2 dives a year", it seems that it
> may be the only
> > practicable way for the buddy system to
> > be something other than the useless or at worst deadly system that is
> practiced today.
> 
> Not all Europeans (Scandinavians, whom I know most about being Danish
> myself) use this
> system. Followers of this line (!) of thought, to my knowledge, are
> primarily divers
> trained within the CMAS system.
> 
> As I am originally a PADI trained diver, I have only used this system once
> and I didn't
> like it. Now, in Denmark, we have few '2 dives a year' divers due to the
> general crappy
> conditions here.
> 
> To dive here (vis: 3-30', temperature: freezing, currents: quite strong and
> generally
> 'nothing' to dive for), you need to be pretty motivated: either you are an
> avid diver or
> you don't dive at all. In these conditions, you PAY attention to your buddy
> - or dive at
> you own peril.
> 
> The buddy system is a mind set. Use it or get out of the water. It is you
> ticket to
> survival...
> 
> --
> Hilsen (Regards),
> 
> Peter Fjelsten - "The Original TechnoDiver..."
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